How to revert Hangouts to Google Talk in Samsung S4

  • Questioner

    I just updated my Android version to 4.3. However, Google Talk is replaced by Hangouts automatically. I don't like Hangouts, since I cannot see friends who are online/offline. I wish to revert to Google Talk. When I try to uninstall Hangouts, there is no uninstall option for me.

    I am using a Samsung S4 smartphone. Does anyone know how to revert to Google Talk?

  • Answers
  • Area 51

    Hangout is the replacement to Google Talk. And on Hangout you CAN see people online. Go into Hangout, Click the + sign to have "New Hangout" (+ sign is on top right, or simply swipe from right to left), and all people with a green hangout sign are online people. All people with grey hangout are offline, but you can send them 'offline' messages so they can see it as soon as they are online.

    Unfortunately this is only half the answer as I don't see a way to remove Hangout back to Google Talk. If anyone can add to this answer, please do.

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    wi fi - How can I prevent Google Talk from disconnecting?
  • Matthew Read

    After about 5-10 minutes of not using the app (i.e., not sending messages), my Google Talk connection drops and does not reconnect till I play with the app a bit. How can I prevent this from happening?

    Theoretically it could be a WiFi timeout issue, or related, but I tried the following:

    1. Using RyanZA's OCLF app to set the timeout to an hour.
    2. In Settings -> Wireless and network -> WiFi settings -> Advanced, setting WiFi sleep policy to Never.
    3. Editing the settings database directly to set the WiFi sleep policy to Never.

    As well, I still receive emails and the like over WiFi while the screen is locked. I don't have a data plan (there's not even a SIM card in the phone right now), so it seems like WiFi stays connected and is otherwise working.

    That said, I do have problems with WiFi occassionally failing to work; see How can I prevent my Wi-Fi connection from glitching? The answer to that question has seemingly fixed the problem with Wi-Fi being glitchy, but it doesn't prevent it from sleeping while the screen is off, so I think something else is wrong. I'm not sure to what extent it affects this GTalk issue.

    This has happened in every ROM I've used. Another Jabber client that does not suffer this issue would be OK, but ideally I'd like to fix GTalk. Meebo and eBuddy suffer the same or similar problems.

    • Device: Samsung Galaxy S Vibrant SGH-T959
    • OS Version: 2.2 (Froyo)
    • ROM: Bionix NextGen v1 (TouchWiz version)

  • Related Answers
  • Tom

    Clearing the data on apps is a good way to "fix" misbehaving apps. I've noticed sometimes apps go haywire and stop working properly. Sometimes rebooting fixes it.

    From my time in the modding community loading custom ROMS (CyanogenMod) there was a time when Google Talk on some of the ROMS wasn't working correctly. I don't know what fixed it. At that time, having to constantly start GTalk was the only way to keep all your Google stuff synced.

    I have Wi-Fi set not to sleep but notice I've never been able to completely prevent it from sleeping after longer periods of time. That glitching may be screwing up your GTalk.

    My best guess at this poing (sorry it's just a SWAG) is to remove the GTalk app completely, wipe your Dalvik, and reinstall GTalk. You can use Titanium Backup to remove the app or the SDK bridge. Make sure you have the correct Gtalk APK before removing the one you have. If all else fails, reload your ROM.

  • Andrey Losev

    Well, if you need google talk for talking to people you could just use a third part im client like xabber or imo. The thing is, android routinely kills processes if they're not active, and these apps work around that by placing a persistent notification in the status bar, which prevents android from killing them (don't ask me why) If you gtalk because google uses it for syncing, you could use a widget that requests sync when you click it. Not really a solution, but good enough for me.

  • Matthew Read

    As far as I can tell, the only way to resolve this is by "hacking" your phone. This XDA post shows you how to change the length of time. I'm guessing putting "-1" for the length of time would cause it to not turn off, but haven't tested it myself.

  • Futon

    I'd use default settings for the Wifi time out since it adds significant drain to the battery. I have a Motorola Droid and try to exclusively use 3g and use these settings.

    1. Open Google Talk.
    2. Press Menu button.
    3. Settings.
    4. Check the following.
      1. Automatically sign in
      2. Mobile indicator
      3. Automatic away-status.

    I stay signed in and I go idle when the phone is sleeping.

  • john salinas

    Looks like you have to root your device per the first 2 answers